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For all of those writers who are a little naughty by nature, we've got a great oblique nib for you. Smooth, wet, nice line variation. Oh, yeah. You're gonna love this preowned Pelikan Souverän M800.
Remember our new-in-the-box Montblanc Patron of the Arts Gaius Maecenas fountain pen? Well, we just hacked and slashed its price down, much the way the caesars cut up those who opposed them. If you were intrigued before, hopefully this is great incentive to buy now.
Complete with its original box is our Waterman 12. Missing its tassie, it does have its tassie fastener! There's even a brief Christmas 1913 message on the box. The nib is very flexi up to 2mm!
Who says vintage pencils are boring?! Our Eagle Pencil comes with a "Magic Knife"! This 19th Century pencil is fully armed with a small gravity knife. Perfect for the person who hates interruptions while they do their morning Sudoku or Crossword.
We just posted a near-turn-of-the-20th-century jumbo Parker 25 1/2 fountain pen. This vintage pen is an eyedropper that is gigantic, AND it has a semi-flex nib that goes from fine to 2mm wide!
Our classic Sheaffer Snorkels come on a comin' with this fully restored Sheaffer Valiant set. This was saw a tiny bit of use and wear, but it looks close to new. It is a spiffy lookin' pastel green and a great vintage pen.
We have two great burgundy colored vintage pens. One is a N.O.S. Waterman C/F, and the other is a stunning N.O.S. Sheaffer Special. Each is new in the box with their complete papers.
Next up is a pristine Sheaffer Saratoga set in dark green. The TouchDown filler was restored, but everything else is stunningly close to perfect. And in the original box.
Will the wonders never cease?! We just uploaded 3 vintage pens that have never been used! Complete with their original boxes and papers, each pen set is pristine after at least 70 years! Check out our vintage pens page to see what they are.
Vintage Italian pens don't often make it to our website, but we have a real doozy in our Pen Co. 53. It seems well inspired by several American designs, but it is a vey handsome vintage pen on its own, and it even sports a great semi-flex nib!
Who doesn't love a good rainbow cap on a Parker 61? We have a stunner of a gold and silver one on our vintage pens page. Recently flushed it is ready for many more years of service.
We added two classic Sheaffer Targas to our vintage pens pages. Yeah, yeah. We know. Many still consider them preowned pens of the modern era. Regardless, they are still very handsome pens that work great. The Sterling Silver Targa writes an especially smooth fine-medium line.
We won't tell you when, but some time today we're posting the ultimate vintage pen for fans of hyper-flexible nibs. It is a Morrison's Filigree pen that has been fully restored. Best of all, its 14k gold nib can flex up to 2mm!
Our Trading Post is a happening place. For only $5 you can list a pen for sale, too. You keep your pen until someone pays you for it. There are no other fees or commissions from us, after you've paid your $5.
Not every vintage pen is a beauty queen. However, ugly pens need love, too, and we've added two great working Parker 51s for real bargain prices based on their cosmetics.
Incised cap bands are highly desirable and fairly rare on Esterbrook Dollar Pens, but we just added a great grey one to our vintage pens page.
Esterbrook fans will love the latest minty-green Dollar Pen we just added to the site. It has a rare 3550 SUNBURST nib! It is a hard-to-find beauty that writes well.
Enjoy a flash of spring this January with our stunning vintage jade green Parker Duofold Senior. If you prefer to kick it with a modern ballpoint. You can't go wrong with our green-and-gold Cross Metropolis.
We start 2023 with a bang. Preowned pen fans will love our New Old Stock Visconti Asia Bamboo in an aqua-marine blue celluloid! It is a stunning pen that photos can't do justice. Vintage pen fans will adore our nearly flawless oversized Sheaffer Balance in Marine Green. Here the camera can do it justice, and the perfection of the color will blow your mind.
It's new year's eve, and if you need a tuxedo for your desk, check out our great selection in both vintage and modern. One is a shiny black senior Parker Duofold and the other is a sterling silver and black Xezo Incognito limited edition rollerball pen.
Apparently flexi Parker nibs exist because we have one on our Parker Pre-Duofold fountain pen. It is a handsome pen that looks just like a Parker Duofold Jr., but it isn't marked as such, but the semi-flex nib happily widens to just beyond 1mm wide!
More than just another beautiful pen, our navy-blue Eversharp Skyline is a stunning writer with a smooth medium nib that has a hint of flex to it!
New Old Stock and stickered, our fully restored Aikin Lambert Capitol Cabinet fountain pen is a true joy. Not only is it a museum worthy piece, it has a semi-flex nib. It is easy to write a very smooth fine line, but with a little gentle effort you can get close to 1mm wide!
During the past two years or so you likely have seen several limited edition LeBoeuf Greg Norman fountain pens. Today we post our last of these limited tributes to the great golfer. One last chance to take a bite of The Shark.
We just got a senior Parker Duofold set in Lapis Lazuli blue that comes pretty damned close to perfection. It ain't totally perfect, but it is close enough represent in most museum worthy collections.
All of us here at ThePenMarket.com wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas. We hope it is filled with good friends, laughter and love. Stay warm out there and travel safely.
With the warmth of a winter fire, our Golden Brown Sheaffer Balance will shine its way into your heart. Fully restored, this pen looks almost mint. It writes well, too!
Preowned luxury pen fans rejoice! We have a huge Omas Milord fountain pen in Bronze Arco. Aside from a few tiny marks on the cap and barrel, we don't think this pen has ever been use! Gorgeous!
A "Shadow Wave" that is! We just restored a handsome grey pearl Parker Vacumatic Shadow Wave fountain pen. Despite some wear, it writes and works well.
We wish all those who celebrate a Happy Hanukkah this year! May your next 8 nights be filled with light, love and blessings.
We just added a great second generation Parker Duofold from 1946 to our vintage pens page. It works well and sports a broad-point "Victory" nib!
In the 1960s Mont Blanc actually had an economy line of pens! The Montblanc 32 is one such pen now on our vintage pens pages. Still in good working order with a 14k gold nib, this was actually quite the innovative design for the company.
All-green (or should we say evergreen) Eversharp Skylines are difficult to find, but we have one on our vintage pens page. Fully restored this pen is ready for action, and it has a little flex in its nib!
Looking as if it just rolled off the assembly line in Fort Madison, Iowa, is a Sheaffer #3 Ringtop from the Roaring Twenties. Fully restored, it works well and is the cat's pajamas.
New on our vintage pens page is a junior sized Waterman Commando 515 pen with nearly perfect original lucite red ends. And if you prefer preowned modern pens, check out our Waterman Carene in Amber Shimmer.
We just added a Rotring Millennium special edition pen from 1996. It appears to be new old stock. It is a very handsome wood and lacquered fountain pen.
We just chopped $2,000 off the price of our Patron of the Arts Montblanc Gaius Maecenas! And we hacked $1,000 of our Montblanc Einstein! You'll also save $500 on our Montblanc Great Characters Leonardo! These pens are basically New Old Stock! Don't miss out on the chance to make someone really happy this holiday season.
Today's blog post is another look at the world of knock-off luxury pens. Ten different fake Montblancs get scrutiny, as we hope to help you better avoid scams in pen collecting.
Double-broad nibs are hard to find, but we just discovered an amazingly buttery smooth one on our Waterman Preface. This preowned luxury pen is silver plated and tons of fun!
Start the online shopping season right with an early Waterman 12 eyedropper pen with a stunning 14k gold nib that flexes to write up to 2mm wide! The pen is in great shape, too, for 100 years old!
The first of many new old stock fountain pens that are still in their original boxes has arrived on our pre-owned pens page. This one is a Waterman Phileas with a fine point nib, complete with its unused converter.
Our FLEXI Waterman 54 fountain pen set makes writing those holiday cards as fun as can be. The fountain pen has been restored with a new ink sac and looks pretty sharp for being 100 years old. The pencil works, too!
Vintage pens with wet-noodle flexi nibs are really hard to find, but we just got one! It is a Sheaffer Self-Filling #2. You will adore its fine-to-1.5mm nib that flexes at the lightest touch.
Not to be confused with Parker Duofolds of the 1980s to now, the Brits had an earlier Duofold that came out after WWII. It has a Vacumatic body shape and a button filler. Fully restored, these pens aren't uncommon globally, but they are a little less common to find here in the U.S.
Our limited edition Pelikan Originals 1931 Of Their Time fountain pen looks like an early 101 model and features a solid 18k gold overlay! New Old Stock. Completely new in the box with all of its original papers.
To all the men and women who served in our armed forces, we want to take a moment to thank you for your service and sacrifice this Veterans' Day.
It isn't really the holiday season, yet, but you get an early peek at all of our discounts on preowned luxury pens. We've cut thousands of dollars off our preowned pens collection. The perfect gifts for the pen collectors in your life...even if that is just you.
Krone Abraham Lincoln fountain pens have the 16th president's DNA encased in amethyst! We have one of these incredible luxury pens, and it has never been used! Complete with all the boxes and paper.
We just dropped the prices on 3 Montblanc pens by $500 each!
Preowned pens are always nice, but the sterling silver Omas Marconi really stands head and shoulders above the rest. A stunning tribute pen dedicated to the man who won the Nobel Prize for the development of radio!
Paying tribute to its past, modern Parker made the limited edition Parker Duofold Centennial in Mandarin yellow. We just added a never-used, preowned pen for your writing or collecting pleasure.
Parker Vacumatic pens remain a classic of art deco design, and they hold a ton of ink. We just added a beautiful blue model from 1945 that has a great working diaphragm.
Our preowned pens page showcases one of our very favorite pens of the Montblanc Writers Series: the Alexandre Dumas. Sporting all three writing instruments, this set is still sealed in its original box! A time capsule into the 1990s Montblanc scene.
We just uploaded a fun pair of sterling silver Pelikan writing instruments. These are the pens and pencils celebrating 150 years in operation. It is a tuxedo junction of pens and pencil.
We just added a stunning, gold-plated Edward Todd pen to our vintage pens section. This restored fountain pen works well, looks stunning without a single dent and writes a lovely medium line with its 14k gold #5 nib.
Ever wonder what a Sheaffer Snorkel looks like in operation? Be sure to look at our Sheaffer Snorkel Demonstrator. This classic pen is in near-mint condition, and you can see all the moving parts!
It isn't often that you find vintage pens that still sport their original nib stickers, but our burgundy Sheaffer Statesman fountain pen has one. A smooth writing M4 nib!
You'll freak when you try out this amazing flexi nib in our classic Conklin 46 fountain pen. Fully restored, this pen is ready to write. Yet, it also looks good enough to display. We just don't know how you'll put it down long enough to display it. Its super-smooth 14k gold nib stretches from medium to 1.5mm!
G6, G4. Whatever. We have a great G4 nib on a Sheaffer Statesman snorkel pen in pastel green! This uncommon nib is very smooth and a real treat for vintage pen collectors. The "G" meant it was for the Gregg Shorthand Writing System!
We just got a "Smoky Quartz" Pelikan M200 fountain pen for our preowned pens page. It looks almost new and is ready for a happy new home. In a rare turn of events, its medium nib writes closer to a fine line.
Found out we'd been sitting on a limited edition TWISBI Eco today. Who knew. Might as well put this smooth-writing, broad tipped beauty back in circulation.
Affordable pens can make amazing writing experiences. For example, our Caran D'Ache 849 fountain pen is a stunningly smooth writer for an extra-fine point steel nib! It is such a bright florescent orange, it is nearly impossible to lose.
Can you hear Quasimodo selling Montblanc Writers Series Victor Hugo pens on the square outside Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris? I'm sure he'd have done a fine job if there weren't any beautiful gypsies dancing about. Come check out our preowned luxury pen before the bell tolls it has sold.
Pear wood makes for a handsome color on our Faber-Castell E-motion ballpoint pen. A great daily driver that you just don't see every day.
Montblanc's special tribute pen has arrived. We now proudly offer the Montblanc Great Characters John F. Kennedy ballpoint in the burgundy color scheme. A great preowned pen, it shows little wear, and it comes with its original boxes.
Preowned pen fans might go gaga for our latest Montblanc Hemingway ballpoint pen. It is a great daily user without its original box and papers. As such it is also a bit of a deal...for a Hemingway.
We just added a World War II Waterman Service Set to our vintage pens page. The writing instruments have some cosmetic issues, but the 14k gold FLEXI nib is a Wet Noodle. Plus you get an intriguing message on the inside flap of the leather case these pens came in.
Bronze Arco pens of the Omas Milord variety are always in high demand. We just added one of these beauties. It is exciting to see, given that Omas went out of business several years ago.
Carved wooden desk bases with the image of a fish are a rare treat for Parker Duofold collectors. However, we have just one such vintage pen set! Better yet, the Duofold desk pen has a FLEXI nib!
Smokey grey celluloid and sterling silver give a luxurious look to the Montegrappa Espressione Duetto ballpoint pen. Preowned luxury pens such as this are impressive in the hand, regardless of if you are at home or work.
Sheaffer Titan pencils are really fun oversized pencils from the 1920s. We just added one such vintage pencil that is in great working order. A classic 1.1mm lead pencil.
Blue Pelikan Souverän M800 fountain pens always turn our heads, but put a semi-flex nib on one, and you have our complete attention. This pen comes in its original box and is in great working order. Nothing but the sheer perfection that you expect from a German luxury pen maker.
As you take a day off from your labors this weekend, treat yourself to one of our fantastic, effortless writing instruments such as a smooth, broad writing Pelikan 120 or a Sheaffer Balance Lifetime!
September is, unfortunately, one of those under-rated months. The end of the month ushers in autumn, but the whole month is generally warm without being oppressively hot. Leaves start to change, and people start arguing over apple cider and pumpkin spice, secretly loving and indulging in both flavors. We start the month off right with a classic Montblanc 149 with a 14k gold nib and split-ebonite inkfeed!
Start your weekend with a sterling silver S.T. Dupont Fidelio. This preowned luxury pen doesn't actually appear to have ever been used! Help it start its active career at 20 or 30 years old!
Vintage pen restorers who might want some promising leads on pens that need a lot of TLC might be interested in our vintage pens page. Our first to bags of parts include a bag of dip pens and a bag of 1920s filigree and repoussé pens.
Chinese lacquer in a glistening red looks stunning on our S.T. Dupont Olympio. The fine guilloche can be seen under the surface. Best of all, it is such an incredibly buttery smooth writer!
Before shuttering the factory, Omas revealed a new design for the famed Omas 360. We have one such triangular pen in nearly mint condition. It is complete with its original box.
You might be thinking of the fast-fashion boutique for girls, but we're talking about a 100-year-old Waterman 21 pencil on our vintage pencils page. It is still in great working order, too.
If you are new to vintage pens, Wahl-Eversharp Decobands can be confusing as they also go by the name "Gold Seal" and "Personal Point." The latter refers to the invention of the easily customized screw-in nibs like Esterbrook and Pelikan would later use.
Sheaffer got clever with its over-engineered Sheaffer Intrigue fountain pen. We just added a blue one to the site, and it is such a smooth writer. Check it out to learn about its unique filling system.
We've had a long succession of New Old Stock pencils from the 1920s on the website. Our Wahl-Eversharp No. 14 marks the last of them until we find some other amazing collection to share with you, but that could take years.
Warm yourself all year long with the stunning Visconti Kaleido Voyager fountain pen of the "Yellow Dawn" design. Such a smooth 18k gold nib! Why on earth did Visconti ever stop making them?
We just got featured in 'Ink CT' magazine! A magazine for artists and art collectors, 'Ink' is interested in both vintage pens and the artistic stylings of our friend and master penman Hong Nhat Nguyen, who owns Rose Art Creative.
If you think ballpoints need more art deco style, you're in luck. Our Montblanc Doué Black & White ballpoint is a stunning design. Although it was made in the early 2000s, it looks like it came from the set of a movie starring Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers.
One of the great honeymoon capitals of the world, Niagara Falls is for lovers and those who love natural wonders. Pelikan Niagara Falls special edition pens pay tribute to this great landmark. Our latest pen is especially special because it has a STUB nib!
We've been remiss in updating our vintage pencils of late, but we are correcting that with some rare Realite pencils from Chicago in the 1920s! We think these might be new old stock from a jewelry shop that closed in the mid-1920s!
Today's preowned luxury pen is a tiger-striped Montegrappa Extra 1930. It is a really handsome and smooth writing pen trimmed in solid sterling silver. It is the type of pen that can put a Montblanc to shame.
Montegrappa fountain pens might be among the best being made in the world of luxury pens today. Our Montegrappa Extra Stylographe is a gleaming work of art in mandarin orange celluloid and solid sterling silver. Don't miss this preowned pen.
We took a couple days to enjoy the holiday weekend, but we are back in the saddle with two great new pens. One is an exceptional Parker Lady Duofold, and the other is a capless rollerball from the Montblanc Heritage 1912 Collection.
Not every pen is perfect, but we have an amazing writer with our Parker Duofold Senior. Just a delightfully smooth broad nib on this fully restored vintage pen with more than a few cosmetic issues.
Do you suppose anyone ever called Catherine the Great Cathy? Regardless, we added a Montblanc Patron of the Arts Catherine the Great fountain pen to our preowned luxury pens pages. This pen is still sealed in its original plastic and comes with its complete box and papers.
More than just good, this is Peter the Great in the form of a Montblanc Patron of the Arts fountain pen. Still sealed in its original packaging, we offer a genuinely hard to find modern classic.
Fans of both the arts and Montblanc will love our Montblanc Patron of the Arts Gaius Maecenas fountain pen, as it celebrates 20 years of the Patron pens and the first known patron of the arts in history. A top advisor to the Emperor Augustus in ancient Rome, Gaius Maecenas cultivated art and culture in Rome as no one had before him.
Yes, we just got a still-sealed-in-the-box 3-piece set of the Montblanc Agatha Christie Writers Series pens! Still in its shrink wrap! This might be a once in a lifetime opportunity you don't want to pass up.
Montblanc paid tribute to the legendary physicist Albert Einstein in 2012. We have a still-new-in-the-box fountain pen. Numbered 2413 of only 3000! Perfect for every serious Montblanc collector.
Who doesn't want an original Montblanc Hemingway fountain pen?! We have one that is barely used and comes with its complete box and papers. Looks almost like new. We just love these first pens of the Montblanc Writers Series, first released in 1992!
Up for a rare vintage pen treat? How about our Esterbrook J-model Demonstrator pen. This ruby red stunner lets you see the inner components of the fountain pen to see how it works!
One does not often encounter either of our modern Montblanc treasures. Yet, it is difficult not to love our special edition Montblanc Firenze LeGrand or our Montblanc Leonardo Sketch Pen (pencil). Neither is a common site on the second-hand market, but these preowned luxury pens are looking as good as new on our pages.
Taking the extremely cool retractable nib of a safety filler and putting it into a modern piston-filling pen, Mont Blanc does the impossible. It made the world's coolest pen. Check out our Montblanc Heritage Collection 1912 fountain pen.
Montblanc Daniel Defoe pens are beautiful pens and a nice tribute to Defoe's hit novel "Robinson Crusoe." We just added both the rollerball and the ballpoint versions to our preowned pens page.
Check out today's Waterman 222 Barley fountain pen from around 1905! This time the cap and barrel are in good shape but the nib is cracked. BUT, this is the original nib with a rare star logo!
We've never had an older Waterman than our Waterman 0322 taper cap fountain pen from the dawn of the 20th century. It has a couple issues, but odds are you may never see another.
Esterbrook Dollar Pens with incised cap band are fairly hard to come by. However, we just added two to our site! One is a lovely green and the other is red with an even rarer 1314 nib!
If you loved the classic children's story or just great luxury pens, you will love our latest special edition. It is the Montblanc Meisterstuck Le Petit Prince! New and unused, you get the complete pen, papers and boxes.
You're in luck. We just added a black, oversized Sheaffer Lifetime Balance set! The vintage pen is fully restored with a new ink sac. You'll write a very nice extra-fine line with its original nib. The matching pencil works really well and sports a 1.1mm lead.
All of today's pens are blue! Vintage pen fans will enjoy our streamlined lapis Parker Duofold Jr set. Vintage pencil lovers will adore our Conklin Endura with a 1.1mm lead.
We think we have an accountant's nib on our latest Sheaffer Lifetime Flat Top Junior. Its jade green color is pretty stunning, even with a little discoloration in the cap. Yet, that whisper thin writing nib will drive extra-fine nib lovers wild.
A Parker 51 might be a more common vintage pen, but it is luxurious all the same. We added a very nice black and chrome model that is a fully restored 1946 vacumatic filler. You might like its smooth extra-fine nib most of all.
What is not to love about our Parker Duofold Sr. that is orange and streamlined. You'll find it fully restored and writing a nice medium line.
Two great additions are now available. First, for vintage pen fans, is a remarkable fiesta red Sheaffer Clipper from the snorkel line of pens. Then for preowned luxury pen fans we have the dynamic Pelikan Polar Lights rollerball.
Mottled red hard rubber looks great on our latest nearly mint Wahl-Eversharp pencil. It still works as good as it looks. Get your 1.1mm lead freak on.
Preowned luxury pen fans will flip when they see our Visconti Alhambra fountain pen. This orange hard rubber with pure silver filigree is a stunner. Complete with its original boxes and papers, we think it has never been filled before.
We just added a beautiful vintage pencil in "Kashmir" green marbling. It is the classic Eversharp Doric. You will see it is in great working order and comes with spare 1.1mm leads.
We just added another great Omas Paragon rollerball in the beautiful celluloid known as "Bronze Arco." It looks great without any significant wear or damage. It writes great with a new refill.
Vintage pencils are a new fascination for us. This mid-1920s Waterman 0725 has a ripple design on the orange hard rubber. There's only a little brassing on this nearly 100-year-old writing instrument that works well and comes with 1.1mm leads.
We've been on a Pelikan kick lately, as they are one of our favorite modern brands. Today we complete listing 4 different colored Pelikan D800 pencils! We believe these to be the largest pencils Pelikan makes, and we even have the rare red model.
A flock of 5 Pelikan Souverän K200 ballpoint pens of all different colors has just landed on our preowned pens page. All are in excellent condition and affordably priced. It's time to get your luxury ballpoint on.
We add two more Parker 51s to our vintage pen pages. Why? They are great pens and everybody loves them. We can never have enough. We hope you enjoy them, too. These are two fully restored Vac fillers.
No, Abbott and Costello haven't come back to sell pens. We just have an amazingly handsome Aurora Afrika limited edition rollerball now added or our pre-owned pens page. We also have the Fountain Pen.
You can write if you want to, if you don't nobody will. But if your friends don't write, then somethin' ain't right, and they're no friends of mine. It's the safety pen. It's the safety pen. It's a Waterman 45, to be more precise, and it is in amazingly good condition.
If you like rare vintage pens, you will absolutely love our 1920s or early '30s Sheaffer Flattop Demonstrator! Fully restored, you can see all of its innards at work. It even writes well, though it is more of a museum piece.
We've just added 3 new Parker 51s to our vintage pens collection. Whether you prefer aerometric fillers or Vacumatic fillers, we definitely have something special just for you.
We just cut the prices on more than two dozen preowned pens. Save big on Montblanc and Omas, especially! Our prices drops equal thousands of dollars in savings.
The buttery smooth train keeps on rolling with a delightful Omas Ogiva Vision demonstrator fountain pen. This preowned luxury pen seems never to have been used...or only very minimally used. Complete with original box and papers.
In our humble opinion, buttery smooth are the best nibs on earth. We don't get nearly as many as we want. BUT! We are now graced with a double dip of buttery smooth wonders. First is a Parker Vacumatic Maxima with a gloriously smooth STUB nib! If vintage pens aren't your thang, then check out our preowned luxury pen...an Omas Milord with an equally impressive fine-point nib made of 18k gold.
If you are looking for an affordable daily driver in the form of a Parker 51, be sure to check out our latest model from the 1950s. It has plenty of cosmetic issues, but it is still ready for front-line use.
We like to confuse modern Nike marketing with vintage Parker pens. We added a phenomenal example of the Parker Duette Jr. in green and gold. If its closeness to mint condition doesn't thrill you, its FLEXI nib might. We also added an Omas Milord rollerball pen and pencil to the site.
If you love Montblanc writing instruments, you will be very pleased to see we have added the shorter, harder to find Montblanc Mozart pencil and ballpoint pen to the site.
Well, we made it to 2022! Let us hope it isn't yet another repeat of 2020. To start off this year right, we've added an incredible 100-year-old Parker Pen Display Counter to our vintage pens page. For preowned luxury pen lovers, we've added a beautiful, sleek Montblanc Heritage Collection 1912 Capless Rollerball pen!
Remember, ThePenMarket.com also is your home for great vintage pen restoration. All customer repairs move to the front of the repair line, which means we plan on maintaing our one-to-two week turnaround time on your pens!
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